Ban appeal Options

[hypercube]

Hello there. I played on your server for a very long time. then one night I hit a guy in afk who occupied an archer's slot but did not kill him. I've been banned for about three months now. I consider myself a correct player, it seems to me a rather excessive penalty, all considered. Please let me in. Thank you.

steam profile: https://steamcommunity.com/id/brv81/

[Bucket]

http://www.sneakymonkeys.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2676 According to this you shouldn't be on our server anyway.

[hypercube]

http://www.sneakymonkeys.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2676 According to this you shouldn't be on our server anyway.

For what reason? As I had explained that time, I was not insulting anyone. In fact later I came back to play on your server. It's ridiculous that you're pulling that thread out again after a long time. Now there is no valid reason. A couple of hits to a player without even killing him. So there is no reason for this ban, we return to the previous one for which I have already explained and I still paid with a temporary exclusion? It's like being arrested for an old crime for which you have already been in prison. Seriously? If it's personal dislike tell without trying so many pretexts.

[The Malefic Trou...]

1. There is a very good reason for the current ban and if you claim otherwise then I suggest you go and read the rules once again. Intentional team-hitting for all intents and purposes counts as team-killing.
2. This is your second offence (see Bucket's post). How many second chances do you think we're willing to give?

See, you're just making up these BS arguments instead of admitting that you can't simply follow two simple rules we have.

Not my ban anyway, so not up to me to decide, but after your last post I can make a guess what's going to happen.

[MonkeyFiend]

Firstly "pulling threads out after a long time" - of course this is relevant. There's less of an issue with people that have broken the rules for racist language etc., made an appeal along the lines of "sorry, won't happen again" then go onto play without breaking any further rules. Happily this makes out over 99% of ban appeals (often because people are used to the somewhat "rule-free official servers".)

However there are always a few that return only to cause more trouble and as such there's a lack of giving those people the benefit of the doubt. Cosndiering a player's past form and history is relevant and common sense.

Additionally I'm not keen on people that try and wheedle and twist their language, so when you used racist language previously, a simple sorry would have been better than an attempt to convey it actually being an "anti-racist message". How naïve do you think people are?

Now regarding this ban. You say yourself you attacked a teammates (but of course with what you consider justification... in this case them being AFK). At the end of the day the rules say no intentional team damage, and you yourself admit that you intentionally team damaged. You were then banned.

Again instead of a "sorry, I broke the rules, won't happen again" type response, instead you go for

"I consider myself a correct player" - well you're not. You broke the rules and, rather more correctly, you got banned
"it seems to me a rather excessive penalty" - frankly I don't care what you think. You broke the rules, having previously broken the rules.

No actual contrition or acknowledgement of the rules that you broke. Instead excuses and flawed rationales for why you broke them.

The ban is currently permanent and based on your previous posts I see no reason to lift it. However, do feel free to make a more sensible post as an appeal and it'll be considered.

[hypercube]

Firstly "pulling threads out after a long time" - of course this is relevant. There's less of an issue with people that have broken the rules for racist language etc., made an appeal along the lines of "sorry, won't happen again" then go onto play without breaking any further rules. Happily this makes out over 99% of ban appeals (often because people are used to the somewhat "rule-free official servers".)

However there are always a few that return only to cause more trouble and as such there's a lack of giving those people the benefit of the doubt. Cosndiering a player's past form and history is relevant and common sense.

Additionally I'm not keen on people that try and wheedle and twist their language, so when you used racist language previously, a simple sorry would have been better than an attempt to convey it actually being an "anti-racist message". How naïve do you think people are?

Now regarding this ban. You say yourself you attacked a teammates (but of course with what you consider justification... in this case them being AFK). At the end of the day the rules say no intentional team damage, and you yourself admit that you intentionally team damaged. You were then banned.

Again instead of a "sorry, I broke the rules, won't happen again" type response, instead you go for

"I consider myself a correct player" - well you're not. You broke the rules and, rather more correctly, you got banned
"it seems to me a rather excessive penalty" - frankly I don't care what you think. You broke the rules, having previously broken the rules.

No actual contrition or acknowledgement of the rules that you broke. Instead excuses and flawed rationales for why you broke them.

The ban is currently permanent and based on your previous posts I see no reason to lift it. However, do feel free to make a more sensible post as an appeal and it'll be considered.

I can understand the antipathy, I can understand the will to enforce the rules to the letter but I just do not understand this fury about that old matter. Mine was not a racist insult. I was instead condemning a person who had turned a racist insult to another user. I do not understand why you say that I believe people are naive. You can ban me to life but I do not allow you in any way to make allusions about my morality. I am not a racist and I do not allow you in the most absolute way to say it. If you insist on this topic you will have news from my lawyer.
at this point if the environment is so sick I'm not interested in being part of it.

[MonkeyFiend]

Firstly there's no antipathy: simply, you broke the rules, you were removed from game

Regarding your previous ban, I have no particular inclination of whether you're a racist or not. The server rules say "no racist language, for any reason" you used racist language, you got banned. That's what we were saying: that you used racist language. Because you did.

The naivety part was in respect trying to argue that you using the word "nigga" etc., in chat was a form of "condemning a person who had turned a racist insult to another user". Yes, I too often prove a point by doing and saying the exact opposite (unless you're now going to say that you used racist language ironically, but best to not even go down that path )

Personally I don't know whether you're racist and frankly at this point I don't care. I did try to provide a means to a resolution from this; it would have simply taken a "acknowledge I broke the rules (in this case attacking teammates), it won't happen again" post and everything would be sorted. Instead we received your little rant about not being racist and threats to call in your lawyer. Rofl.


In the meantime to ensure you don't need to be part of the very environment you're so sick of, I'll set the ban to permanent with no further appeals.