Hi so i was just kicked from the SM chivalry server, saw on your guys rules that this is were i report admin abuse. I have been a longtime player in chivalry, ive played since the mod days, love the game and I like to play on you'r guys server from time to time, i have almost always had good experiences with the players as well as the SM admins. In fact i think you guys for the most part have very good admins. So out of respect for the people who play on the sever as well as the integrity of SM feel like i should post this.

Anyways i was just playing on the server with fool here and several people said he was using an aimbot, and after playing in the game against him for a good 20 minutes i thought that they were right. So i asked why he is hacking. Now you guys might think, of course he doesn't hack, and maybe he doesn't, but his response was to say anyone calling him hacker was a dumb noob (i'm 44 and everyone else was also a higher level) and shortly after saying that, he muted my in game chat, as i'm sure he also did to the other people questioning his playing abilities. Now this seems excessive as he could have chose to ignore the chat, he could have laughed it off, could have calmly, maturely and politely asked people to stop talking to him, instead he mutes peoples chat, no reason given.

After realizing i was muted i decided to rejoin the game. As soon as i joined i said "LOL why did you ban me from chat?" I was instantly kicked. Again this is overstepping his admin privileges and going against SM's own rules as it states that i need to be given a reason before a ban. So i decided to join 1 more time to try and calmly figure out why fool felt the need to ban me for calling him a hacker.
Now again even if it was not hacking, I was not breaking the rules, I was not being abusive or rude. After getting back on the server i asked him why he banned me and i said he is overstepping his bounds as an admin. His response was along the lines of "I dont have anything to say to you, feel free to report this". Now other people on the server felt the same way as me, that this was an overstep of admin privileges, Now this time he threatened that if i didn't stop "Spamming" the chat i would be kicked, he used some colorful language as well. Now I believe spamming would be constantly typing text in chat over and over again, not trying to have a conversation, But this time he seems to realize he needed to follow SM rules and give me some kind of reason. And then bam, 1 hour ban.

Now i understand it is my words against his and i'm sure Fool can make up whatever he wants and you guys wont take the word of some player over someone who you know and is on you'r competitive team. But as a gamer, admin abuse can be very annoying, especially in a game like chivalry were as you guys know players get kicked for everything under the sun. You guys have a good server but allowing admins to overstep their responsibilities and break their own rules can lead to a bad server. Again this is a shot in the dark but if you guys are not already aware, Fool seems to take his admin privileges as a means to ban people he doesn't like which is in stark contrast to you'r good admins who i have seen defuse many arguments, ban hackers, and be kind and respectful. Fool is none of those things and if he is sporting the SM tag then I think he should be required live up to the integrity that is displayed by you'r more mature admins. Everything i said here is what happened, i have no reason to lie, whether you guys chose to do anything about is obviously up to you, but I don't think what he did is allowed by you'r own rules so i think it is best to report this.

Cheers

Including you, you were 2.


Rank 44 and not able to see that I'm not cheating ? Can't you open your eyes and look at the arrows trajectory and damage ? Can't see the misses ?


So you are questioning my integrity publicly and expect a nice reply ? Seriously ? Who do you think you are ?


You are the only one I muted. And I told you at least once to stop accusing me. Didn't stop -> got muted. Seems fair to me.


I don't have to justify myself. You are playing on our server and if you are making trouble (in this case, spamming stupid accusations towards an admin in the chat), I'll be sure to sort this out. And I warned you, logs will proove it (and the last part where you say you didn't lie).


Show me where

Sadly, you don't make the rules. I'm done with kids like you thinking that they posses the absolute knowledge/thruth/ability to judge so yep, I said multiple times that I won't discuss this over the ingame chat. You carried on and didn't accept the small punishement : being muted. You choose tho bypass the admin decision. That wasn't smart, despite of what you think it does justify being kicked, which of course happened.


You were rude and abusive to me, is that hard to understand ? Admins have no feelings ? I'm playing on the server hosted by my clan and a retard comes in to tell me I'm a hacker ? Do you REALLY think it's nice ? Thats something you have to say to people inviting you to their party ?


That was not threat, that was warning. Retard ? Noob ? Very colorful.


That's pretty gentle giving the multiple warnings, 1 mute and 1 kick. Very clever to have carried over despite having heavier and heavier sanctions.


Oh nope, I already told my version to Monkeyfiend by MP and I'm sure he will check the logs. If needed he will post them here.


As an admin, I can tell you whining players for no reason can be annoying.


That's pretty false. I'm one of the admin that do the smallest bans durations and give the most warnings (exept for kicking high pings because they never execute anyway, but that's not the topic), you could have easily got a perma for something similar. The thing is that it would have been just a mute if you acted like an adult and got over this or "gathered evidence" and sent them to Monkeyfiend.


I'm actually above the average age in this clan, have a work with responsibilities, a car, an apartment. Not the basic kid you'd see calling admins hackers on your servers.


Thanks mate. Gotta check the logs now.

I'm curious to see the logs as well, mostly to see the extent of the spamming. If players come back and start complaining instead of learning from warnings and kicks then yeah, I would've banned them too.

As for the auto-aim hacking: you should realize that most admins play this game quite a bit and can get very good at it. That combined with the fact they're not risking their admin spot for a few extra kills makes it unlikely fool was actually hacking his way to the top of the scoreboard.

How is this admin abuse? It seem like you're just butthurt.

Why didnt you take any evidence if he abused his powers? It clearly says ''if you suspect an admin abusing his powers, please sent proof to .....''

I'm fairly familiar with this 'Majorshake' person as I've seen him butthurt and accusing people of hacking before. Every person I've seen him accusing of hacking were just decent players, I didn't see anything wrong with them.

Never even seen this player before...

Ok well no need for the obnoxious response, but thanks for at least proving some of my point. Now I don't really care if you were hacking or not, that's not really my point. My point is that I, along with several others on the server, found you to be playing suspiciously and instead of dealing with it maturely you decided to censor people. Its like that quote from game of thrones. "The only reason you would cut out a man tongue is because you are scared of what they have to say" or something like that. Either way I don't care weather you hack or not, but i do care, as does SM, if you are abusing admin powers to censor people you don't like.

Also i would point out i was not the one who first accused you of hacks, several other players accused you and continued to, i just said i agreed with them and its shitty that you hack, that's when you decided to mute me. there was no please stop or any remotely polite response.

And here is were you decide lying is your best course of action. I was not rude or abusive to you, neither was my post here. I find it ironic and hilarious that you are both rude and abusive in you'r response, calling someone a retard for reporting you'r blatant abuse of admin privileges is probably not the smartest way to prove that you do not abuse your privileges.

Also I have never seen an Admin on SM in Chivalry or any game for that matter ever ban someone for asking questions and trying to have a respectful debate or conversation, for you to think that is acceptable is ridiculous.



Bucket this is admin abuse for several reason

1. Censoring chat for the sole reason that people were questioning his playing abilities.
2. Kicking people from a game without reason or explanation
3. Being disrespectful harassing, rude, admins always represent their community and or group (in this case SM) and from what i have seen this is not what SM stands for.
3. Banning a player for one hour for a claim of spamming chat, when there was no chat spam and that player was asking legitimate questions.
4. And yeah, I stated in my post that this irks me, as it would irk you if i were to ban you from a server for asking questions.

Also that would be awesome if you guys can check the logs, as i did not think to screen cap our lovely conversation until right before i was banned again, you can even see fool harassing me right before the ban, as well as other people saying how he was crossing the line. The logs support everything i am saying, again no reason to lie, but after dealing with Fool in game and considering this incredibly obnoxious and pretentious response, I don't think i need to say anything further. If i play on the server again while fool is on i will make sure to screen cap his responses.

And yes Sneeky I do call out hackers if i ever see anything suspect, i don't see how that makes me butthurt as i am not a new player by any means. However In this case it was other players calling him out for aim boting as an archer, and after playing further it did seem rather suspect that Fool was hitting every single one of his shots. I understand there are amazingly good players but i tend to be skeptical. We all know there is a hacking problem in chivalry, especially in competitive, obviously less so on public, but i feel that as someone who has a lot of playtime in this game as a whole, and as someone who has researched what hacks there are and how they work, i would be doing a disservice not calling out what i believe to be hacks.


Also since you asked, here it is in black and white, Sneaky Monkeys Rules Handbook page 12,

"If you are acting as admin, please try to keep personal abuse to a minimum
and keep matters as fair and mature as possible when performing admin
duties."

"Our reputation is important to us and it doesn’t look good if a player post a
screenshot showing an admin giving them abuse.
Misuse of admin powers may result in revocation of specific or all admin
abilities."

"Admins should make sure that if they are kicking or banning it is done in
accordance of the server rules – admins should not kick players for things that
are not covered in the server rules. Again this is covered under misuse of
admin powers"

i believe those are the rules you were asking for.

According to SM rules the only way banning me would be justified would be if i was harassing you, spamming chat, acting disrespectful, tking, all the stuff which i did not do.

Cheers

Just waiting for the logs.

A note on this: just because you're asking questions, doesn't mean you aren't spamming the chatbox. The chatbox is mostly meant for brief conversation and asking (a lot) of questions continuesly can quickly turn into spamming the chat. Calling someone out on something isn't forbidden, but continuesly doing it is annoying more than anything else.

Mate.

You accused a very good archer player in front of hacking in front of the whole server. Not even accused, you just said so yourself, you stated he was hacking. No proof. Who's being rude here? This thing happens all the time on the server, sorry to say this but mediocre low rank players accuse high rank players of hacking all the time. This is rude, you were being rude. You were NOT being polite in the first place and it baffles me why you were expecting a polite response. The hyprocrisy you're presenting here is out of this world.

We as admins are still regular players. Ask yourself how would you feel in Fool's place.

And how was Fool even supposed to defend himself and proof he was not hacking?



Next time on the street hit someone in a face and expect him to be polite about it, because that's how the whole situation looks to me.

And before you start whining we're blind and protecting our abusive teammate - we get equally angry when any other non-SM player gets accused of hacking. It's just a dick move.

Remember: things you say have consequences. You can't state someone's hacking because they (I am sorry again) obviously a better player than you and expect them to be chill about it.


Edit: this is a simple truth about life: if you want people to be nice to you, be nice to them. You were not and you have no right to expect a nice response. We are not being paid for customer service, we are first and foremost players.

Just out of pure interest, how does an aimbot actually help you in this game? Unlike a regular shooter game, you can dodge projectiles due to their relatively low velocity. As long as you are not very close to your target or your target keeps advancing without accelerating the probability of crossing your aimbot's calculated trajectory would be quite low. Or is there a hack out there that makes the arrows lock on a target after they were fired. Sorry for my ignorance, I am not someone who has researched what hacks there are and how they work...

Siishhhhh, Can people stop with using the word butt hurt, It got old like seven years ago, And it provokes my envy

While its true that there ARE payhacks and aimbots out there for Chiv, You need to be a real pleb to think it helps you at all in this game or achieves anything at all.

Majorshake, While i can approve of your attitude to report anything you would find suspicious in the hopes of improving the game for everybody, Throwing out accusations of cheating is not the way to go about it, You seem pretty nice but its not cool and its not nice at all for fool to suffer such gossips about him, You basically have stated that Fool is using third party software to change his game experience to give him an advantage over others, Do you realize how ridiculous it makes you look?

If you really ever want to catch someone with their pants down, collect the evidence or keep it to yourself is the best way.

While ill agree and DO ^^ have hilarious evidence that SOME admins DO turn a blind eye to naughty and mischievous behavior by their non-SM friends from time to time. Never maliciously mind you, about 99% of the SM server-player-base have found NO problems with Fool, be it abuse, cheating, or trolling. Are you suggesting that you maybe found something the other 200+ non SM regular players didn't Majorshake?

I wonder what the chat log would read!

Please, can someone with config access provide the logs ?

I'd like to shut this dirty mouth asap. Not harrassing, didnt lie, didnt got warnings ? What a joke.

When you will be faced to the logs, I can image your reaction : either you will still play dumb and the troll would be confirmed, or you will say that the logs were modified. In both case, I hope you'll end up perma'ed from the game server AND website.

Yes you are right malefic low level players as we'll as younger players do wrongly accuse players of hacks for many silly reasons. But again I've been playing this game for 7 years, I am not a new player and neither were the other players that accused fool.

And saying someone is shitty for hacking is very justified if the person is hacking, which I and several other people believed he was. I have been accused of hacking several times in this game but I have never gotten offended or angry about it, I find it hilarious. When someone responds to being called a hacker by making statements like "only a noob would call me a hacker" and then proceeds to silence, harass, and ban anyone who questions this, it doesn't really inspire confidence to the contrary.

But again I am more hung up on the admin abuse, as whatever fool decides to do outside of that responsibity is his business, but as an SM admin I think he should be held to SM rules.

And yeah steel I would love to see the logs too, if you guys could see the logs you would get were I am coming from I think

And fool the logs support my side of the story, don't know why you keep saying I will be exposed as that has all the evidence I am talking about. And your continuing obnoxious responses are exactly why I am posting here, so again you are simply proving my point.

As Gabn says "never lie on the internet" i have no reason to lie I don't have a vendetta against you, but I felt the need to make the higher ups at SM, who care about their integrity, aware of this.

So I went to check the Chivalry server rules and I can't find anything you stated. Why ? Because you are so helpless that you took 7 years old rules from another game (Battlefield).
What I found was perfect, I almost removed nothing from the original post : http://www.sneakymonkeys.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1747







And my favourite :

Well i typed in sneaky monkey rules and that's what i found, i was under the impression that the divisions were homogeneous. I also like how you selectively did not include

"If you have complaints please approach these in a constructive manner (preferably a post on this website so all admins can see them) - typical childish insults on the server will result in warnings/kicks/bans. IF you have issues with an admin abusing their powers, please make a post or PM me with time/dates and evidence. We can't just take the word of a stranger on the internet"

By this rule you should be banned from the server not only from what you said in the chat logs, but also for you're obnoxious rude and harassing responses on this forum. There is plenty of evidence on this very forum post that you should not have admin privileges, as you seem to think it gives you carte blanche to act like a dick to people not in SM.

I have been nothing but respectful in these forum post. By the logic that the SM chivalry server is a party, then as a host calling people names and harassing them, after they go to your party to have a fun time, just because they said you were cheating at beer pong, would make people never want to go to another party at your house, hence why i'm here. If admins as disrespectful as you are allowed to ban and kick who you deem you don't like, the server and server population suffers.

# Judges a player only based on his score, too good = cheater
# Lies
# Is too retard to understand when 4 admins tell him he's the dick in this story

And we can append the list
# Blind

I and the others players were not judging you based on your score. 25-2-10 could be done by any skilled player. We were judging you based on the fact you were hitting every single shot consistently, which even for the best archers in the game, is very very difficult, espically considering, at times, you were at a range of 2-300 meters. But again the hacking isn't the issue, it is your response.

Again i have no reason to lie, you have plenty, as i am sure you do not wish to lose this privilege you have been granted.

Again i don't see why you insist on being a dick to me, i don't think you see how this supports exactly what i am talking about.

4 of you'r friends who you have known for presumably a long time take you'r word over some random person they have never met, color me surprised. I would expect the same from my friends, does not mean i am wrong in this situation though.

attacking my character does not change the fact that you should not be an admin if you feel you are justified to act like this towards the SM community, it only supports it.









http://postimg.org/image/w35tpolzh/cc450d9f/


Here is the one screen cap i have, this is right before i was kicked for apparently spamming, if i had taken a screen cap 5 seconds earlier you would see fool harassing me, as well as more players calling him out for abuse. I only had time to type maybe 7-8 responses after rejoining before being kicked. All my responses were either questions or saying he should not be kicking me. The logs will show this.

Now this is from memory but this would be yesterday, mid day between like 4-7 something like that. I was originally muted on the mason castle assault map, rejoined on battlegrounds i think, this is were i was instantly kicked for questioning my muting. Then rejoined on the next map, Stoneshill, again kicked in less than 5 minutes after asking about and disputing the previous kick/mute. Hope this helps in finding the right logs.

disclaimer:I don't get how to share images here, hope this link works

You have trouble counting I see. 2 people complaining out of a 50 players game.
Shouldn't be difficult to count up to 2...

And... You screen is about 100% useless.

No there were at least 2 other people calling you out, maybe 3 and that does not include me. And again I only joined in after watching you play for a bit, as I do not just randomly accuse people of hacking unless I see some kind if evidence.

Also yes, this screen cap doesn't show much, but it shows I am telling the truth. If you are so confident then how about you help find the logs, as you have more access than I do, I think that would clear this entire situation up quite nicely.

Oh yes, it will.

However, even if I have said access, would be dumb of me connecting to the server and copying the logs. Why ? Because you would say I corrupted them in my advantage. So I won't even go and read them, so everyone is 100% sure they would be unmodified.

In the screenshot :

Median Tehlo Warrior -> not talking about me
Major Shake -> complaining as always
OGvisualz -> not tallking about me
*Locke -> not talking about me
Knight Sirius who intentionally tk at the moment of that screenshot -> complaining as always
Fool -> Trying to make you understand

So, name the 4 guys on the screenshot that are supporting you ?

I recorded the Stoneshill map where you got banned. Planned to keep that in the members area but someone thought you could open your eyes if faced to it so I took the advice.
See me playing much after you started talking over again ? No ? Because you were harassing me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv_6rGx-5MU

This prooves :
- you were harassing me
- you were warned multiple times

EDIT:
Also
- you were lying
- I'm not cheating

Major, I am sad to say that I find your attitude to this situation absolutely disgusting. You not only show many instances of utterly childish behaviour, but also a constant underlying level of hypocrisy. Let me begin.

If you watch the video fool has posted, skip to his first reply. He said to you very clearly "I won't discuss it" and "got a problem? Go to monkeyfiend" to which your reply was "oh I will". This is the point where you decide to pursue it further, demonstrating your immaturity very well. You go on to say "but you're the first SM admin I've had a problem with", which is clearly provoking a response from Fool. When Fool decides, as he previously stated, not to reply, then you take it upon yourself to start asking questions, attempting to provoke Fool further into saying something out of hand which you would use as evidence in your case against him. Your approach to the situation is a "witch hunt", while not only provoking Fool repeatedly you also harass and pursue the issue to a degree where any sane individual would have no choice but to kick you.

Your accusation of harassment is not only incorrect but also hypocritical; declaring in chat that fool's actions were "textbook admin abuse" and proceeding to provoke him even further by saying "go ahead and kick me I know you want to". What clearer evidence of harassment and provocation do you need? Fool, I know you will be sorry to hear, did not harass you at all, instead he dealt with the situation properly, showing levels of maturity which you could only aspire to achieve. He stated multiple times that he was not going to discuss it with you, is that harassment? You provoked him into harassing you, when he didn't take the bait you started trying even harder despite his warnings.

If I can commend you on anything, it would be your effort put into trying to get Fool stripped of his admin powers. Constant harassment and provocation to such a degree I have not seen before. I am absolutely disgusted (yet unsurprised) that you would even consider making a post on these forums to berate and harass Fool, things which you yourself accused him of doing.

Even now on the forums you try to make Fool look like he has done something wrong, by saying he is "attacking your character". Frankly I think what he said was a compliment, in fact calling you retarded and blind would be offensive to those with downsyndrome.

Major Shake I do wish you the best of luck in your quest to get Fool banned, but unfortunately I think you will beat him to it.

Yours Sincerely, Vincent

Well thank you for posting this video. if you had posted this earlier it would have cleared a lot of this up. When i joined back in i was still trying to get a reason for getting kicked/muted the first time.

I would like to note though you leave out the people accusing you of hacks on the previous map as well as the part were you kick me when i ask why you muted me. I would imagine if you recorded stoneshill then you also recorded the previous map which is were it all started.
But when you start the video here, it is out of context, as i have already been muted and kicked, and what i am saying here is related to what happened previously, as opposed to me just randomly calling you out. So if you can please post the rest of the video from the previous map, if you have it, as it gives much needed context, that would be great.

and yes Knight Sirus was one of the players from the previous round who witnessed the previous conversation, you can see him saying "sorry" at the beginning of you'r video from the previous map. he is also a higher level player. Also there were 2 Knights, there were Knight Kabibles, who is the tker you are talking about, (accident) and there was Sirus, who is the one i am talking about. In the video you ban Sirus for calling you a bad admin (16:08) after you obnoxiously ignore Guts polite request for a PM. I can only assume the other players accusing you of hacking either left or were also kicked, as they are not on this map. I don't know as you leave out the previous part of your video, which is obviously cut out. If you are going to post this, please post the whole video, i bet it shows you kicking more people on trumped up charges or for no reason at all.

And Vincent i just want to clarify, if i haven't already, i am not trying to get fool banned by any means. I know he is a well respected member among people in SM. And he seems like a good player, i have said this entire time that my hackusations could have been wrong and that THIS IS NOT MY POINT. My point is he did not deal with it in the right way. I am saying is that he shouldn't have admin powers if he bans people for trying to talk to him and ask questions or accuse him of something he didn't do. Telling someone to shut the fuck up for asking for a reason for a kick or mute, and then calling them an idiot after they were banned is clearly a form of harassment and or being rude. Further threatening the rest of the server with a "whos next" also doesn't look too good. There is a reasonable way to defuse this situation, that does not include banning someone and calling them names, and or threatening an entire server with a ban for calling you out for abuse.

Also i don't see how you are disgusted with what i have said. I have been respectful on these forums, and i have told the truth, fool has been completely disrespectful and rude in this post as well as during the matches i played with him. I understand he is you'r friend but you are clearly ignoring his blatant harassment.

I don't have a quest to get fool banned, call it a quest to do my part to make sure there isn't admin abuse on a well respected server. I assure you this is more a plea to make sure other people don't get wrongly banned/kick by fool, as i usually play on FOR. which i would just like to point out has policy of not kicking anyone for any kind of conversation (and it works like gangbusters)

It would seem that all SM members are granted admin privileges and as we all know not everyone is cut out to be an admin. I would probably do the same shit fool does and ban people i don't like, thing is, i am well aware i would be a shit admin, fool seems to be oblivious to the fact that stooping to such a low level as an SM admin makes SM look very bad, and maybe just maybe, hes not the right kind of person for the responsibility of admin.

I don't know how many more ways i can get accross my point. I think i have said it all.

Fool if you can, please post the rest of that video to be fair, that would be sweet, i doubt you will as that would just give even more evidence to my case. This is all i have to say, been as respectful and truthful as i can. If this is not evidence enough that someone should not be an admin, i really don't know what is.

Wrong. Notice the freeze in the beginning of the video ? It's because my storage hard disk was in idle state and had to start up when I fressed the shadowplay hotkey.
Why I recorded Stoneshill ? Well, I got in my mind I could give you the video to proove you I wasn't cheating. But I guess I was too kind with you. If someone doesn't deserve something here, it's you not deserving being accepted on this server where admins put a lot of efforts keeping it clean for everyone. But sadly for you, this time you were the stain.


Sirius was banned for 2 reasons : revenge TK and constant critisism towards admin (just like you).
"he is also a higher level player" -> Context ? Still thinking I'm cheating ? You desperate.


I refused to add him on Steam, not to answer his questions. It's a FRIENDs list, isn't it ?
Also, I'm allowed and encouraged to play and enjoy it. Not connecting to go spectate all day long and having a ban quota reached per day and answer every question.
Not a single admin will tell you that they are obligated to help everyone the way they want. If we want to play we won't play the policeman.


Or they can have a life and have left the server. In the previous map, I muted and kicked you when you rejoined to bypass the mute. Nobody else got a kick/ban.
No reason at all ?
- Knight Sirius -> intentional TK and constant criticism
- Major Shake -> constant criticism
- NariiHD -> intentional TK
- Igorek Shilov -> repeatedly kicking me (should have been a ban but I was again trying to be too nice to rulebreakers)


Just let me quote your earlier posts (you are lying all the time, it's aweful and annoying) :




Like... Posting walls of lies text on our forums to put the shame on me, get me banned or punished, because you were MUTED ? That doesn't seem that reasonable.


No, they just think you are being an asshat that is making me loose my patience, and trust me I'm a patient type of guy.


Is that a joke ? Do you really think that the Stoneshill video is in your favor ?

http://i.imgur.com/jiEV8jO.png

So to paraphrase some of the goings-on.. you joined the SM server and decided to accuse an admin of hacking - I'm curious on how you expected that one to turn out?

It's not like you'd be able to votekick him and I suspect unless you have jedi-like powers of persuasion no one it going to say "you're right, I am hacking" (except maybe tongue in cheek).

If you were serious about him hacking then gathering any evidence and either post it to the SM forums, to the devs (contact@tornbanner.com) or to a global admin (such as me) as hacking can get people globally banned, fool however has long since been checked out.

Regarding being called a noob: level does not infer some sort of wisdom. It just shows somone has spent a lot of time in game. Publically accusing an admin in their own server chat - I can either assume this was intended trolling or simply very poor error of judgement.

Anyway regardless, the admins are players just like you or me. While we as a clan expect levels of pofessionalism, we are all just human and respond to things as such. We're there to play a game, not try and defend against pointless allegations. The response is within the remit of the admins, while they are of course free to 'laugh it off' as you say, likewise it's within their powers to prevent such harassment. Harassment is what it is - just because you make a public accusation does not mean that that person has to reply or defend themself to a guest on the server, nor to they have to just allow implied guilt through lack of response. The logs show there were warnings, you were then muted. The only thing we ask our members is if they do take action against a player, it be justified and there is evidence that can be provided to the rest of the clan be it logs or screenshots. There is no onus to provide this to random members of the public since it contains potentially sensitive information (such as IPs)

You mentioned after realising you rejoined the game? So let me understand this... you realised you were muted. This could only be done by an admin, so you thought the best course of action would be to evade that administrative action by intentionally rejoining the game and continuing in the previous actions that got you muted in the first place? :s

There are plenty of trolls types looking to get a rise out of players. Accusing someone of hacking, then pestering them throughout the game until they lose their temper is quite a common one. Often this is people looking to get into an argument and keep picking at or more often keep trying to make another party justify their position ad nauseum - usually with the guise of 'trying to have a conversation'

There was talk of 'threats' which were repeated warnings to stop, which were ignored. This reminds me of an incident with neojorge/captainisrael - I saw both TKing each other and, since not knowing who started it, decided to temp ban both of them for 7 days. Neojorge accepted this and was later unbanned. Captain israel sought to 'argue his point' even though he had little point to make, I eventually warned him that if he didn't stop the temp ban would be changed to a perma ban. He continued and therefore is banned to this day.

The point I'm making here is the admins are under no obligation to justify their bans to the public players - especially to people that they've just banned. If there's suspicion of an admin abusing their powers it can be brought either to me privately or to the clan as a whole.

Instead making accusations in a public space and hassling someone serves no possible benefit other than to possibly stir up some sort of drama.

Personally if it were me you accused of cheating I'd probably just ignore it. If you continued with such accusations I'd almost certainly mute or kick you too.

Your analogy of beer pong is flawed to an extent as it'd be a minor aspect of said houseparty (more like feinting in a server, a lot of people don't like it but generally it wouldn't get you thrown out).

A more appropriate one would be inviting strangers to my house to party and one turns up and accuses me of something that would be viewed as serious within the realm of that party.. let's say.. cheating on my wife with another guest. How do I respond - Ignore it? Said obnoxious guest keeps repeating the accusation trying to get me to defend myself in front of the other guests?

Now in real life if someone made such an accusation, I'd be pretty annoyed. If I had a real life mute button, I'd probably use it Failing that I would probably throw them out on their ass. This is more like your situation.

You joined a busy server and publically accused an admin of that server of committing an act that would be considered very serious within the realms of the game, with the consquences of it were true would see him being banned. You continued to pester said admin, evaded a muting in order to continue pestering that admin to justify his actions, then after other warnings seem surprised when he actually throws you out. You then rejoin and continue the very same actions that got you muted and then kicked?? You then make a post regarding admin abuse, which again if found guilty of would see him banned from the servers.

Based on what I've seen from the server logs etc., IMO Yet Another Fool has no case to answer. I will however leave it in his hands whether or not to add you to the permanent ban list for the SM servers. (@fool: send me a PM if you want him added)

Closing thread.