Ok at the moment only Kadey and I have admin in game rights turned on. This was a decision I made in the wee hours and it may or may not make any sense... so this is why I'm posting about it here.

What are all your thoughts on this? Should we restrict admin rights? Should they be free to all? Should we vote? Does it matter?

Thoughts on Teleporting and 'self spawning item' hacks at will?

Basically I just want everyone to be happy and I feel there's a few things about our world we need to discuss just so we all know what the score is

Being a member of a democratic clan, I find that comment pretty disturbing.

Tbh I couldnt care less about admin, while on the other hand it was useful if someone was desperate to show off their latest creation I could then whizz over and have a look, usually followed by a long walk back to my own area...

We were all granted admin at the same time, but I assume someone has abused it and thus it has been taken away from all, it just would have been nice if this was discussed.

As I do not know the ins and outs of admin, is there a way to restrict certain aspects? ie self tele is useful and not gamebreaking, however spamming supplies out of thin air is taking the biscuit, and ruins the idea of plunging into the depths to gain new materials.

Also I believe members of the current admin have been sporting copious amounts of [tnt] which i believe can only be created by picking up gunpowder from zombies (which have always been turned off).........

anyway thats my thoughts

i dont really think i should be commenting on this. ill leave my thoughts on this to myself at the moment

Yeah I think I should point out that the only reason this decision was made was to at least have a start point of reference. I'm not saying I even agree with it even though I made it but we should start somewhere and given that Kadey and I have Admin over the server I just took that as base. It's not like I wanted to piss people off I just thought start at the bottom and work it out from there.

... and yes I'm sure I tripped arse about face here ... whoops blame the JD (my bad) I take back my bad decision... except now were discussing it so nothing will actually change again until we are all good to go on this subject.

No-one has abused it as far as I'm concerned let me get that clear.

However the admin rights (at the moment without mods) are either full everything on or off. As far as I'm aware at the mo there is no slider that allows partial access.

I guess the real question I'm asking is do we restrict Admin? Or do we let everyone Admin? Does this matter?

Also YES my shameful drunken experiments in explosives have been quite ridiculous... and I've outgrown them (at least I will have by the time I run out ).

However my personal feelings are its up to each member how they wish to play. If (technically) cheating is desired I see no problem with that so long as it does not affect another player. However this leads us into murky territory. How should you play the game? Do you give everything away or do you hoard? Resources are after all valuable. Each player must have different views on this. This also creates difficulty.

Personally I find this game a bit weird because it ends up being about property... which I'm sure we're all aware has been the cause of a good many wars in the history of mankind, along side the old fave of religion.

The reason we need to keep discussing this is so we can all get along harmoniously.

Different folk have been grumbling about different things. Lets air the dirty laundry and move forward

And please forgive me if you think all this is unnecessary after all I'm NOOB admin and I just want to do it right, personally I'd rather I wasn't admin really but as a member of this Clan and having been quite pushy about the game in its early throws I can at least try to shoulder the responsibility of asking some of the difficult questions.

i think we can have scales on this IE admin , Builders , moderators. if you dont want admin thats find we just need acouple of people that are on alot to be able to access the server controls to restart/start the saerver if it goes down . we can talk on TS if you want

If possible I'd like to opt out of admin rights to avoid the temptation of spawning resources when I get bored of mining.

i'm more than happy to share the responsibility of restarting server , etc, but as for ingame admin i'm not that bothered, i prefer just to do my own thing in the game

I'm also of the opinion that as long as it doesn't effect other people, there should be relative freedom to play the game how you want. Obviously, things like vast TNT insanity to the point of crashing the server, but if one person just wants to build and not worry about mining I'm not sure where (or even if) a line should be drawn. After all this is not a competitive game with a single identifiable objective. (If spawning is allowed on any scale more than 'the odd bit of TNT' I think we *should* say that spawned items cannot be put in public chests.)

Obviously keeping those sort of constructions out of normal view distance of other people is one possibility - but banning them? I'm not so sure. Either way, i think property rights are a seperate issue to admin rights anyway.

As far as tping, I basically agree with Aki - TPing to people without permission is very rude - and TPing people to other people without being asked is even worse. And as these are the only ways TPing can really work, I don't think anything else needs to be said.


And I think it goes without saying that kicking/banning of clanmembers is absolutely out of the question.



As I said at the start though, spawning of stuff is really the primary issue I see, and personally I have little objection to it as long as it doesn't effect others and the server's stability.