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post Aug 28 2015, 07:22 PM
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Hi,


Could you please have a look at the log of 64P serv around 12:00 to 12:30,

Son of Meme insulted me several in an unacceptable way and without any reason,
you will see the severity of it in the log as I don't want to go into details here.


If you could please look at it, as I'm requesting a ban because this is the only thing I can do to him...

Thanks.
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post Aug 28 2015, 08:28 PM
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For future reference please take screenshots, thank you.


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post Aug 28 2015, 09:46 PM
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I'm sorry Bucket but what's is this?

It sounds like a department of health automatic response...


You mean that logs are not good enough?

Then I will look for other option...








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post Aug 28 2015, 10:36 PM
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I banned him this morning on the 50 players server for intentiontal team killing.
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post Aug 28 2015, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE (Obi-Wan Kenobi @ Aug 28 2015, 11:46 PM) *
I'm sorry Bucket but what's is this?

It sounds like a department of health automatic response...


You mean that logs are not good enough?

Then I will look for other option...



No it means only Monkeyfiend can acces the logs and hes gone on holiday and screenshots do make it easier to search for 'keywords'


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post Aug 29 2015, 08:45 AM
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Then give that explanation first, bucket. You're getting a bit of a reputation here for not being nice wink.gif
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post Aug 29 2015, 12:06 PM
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I figured it would be common sense to atleast provide 'proof' not saying he is lying but I don't blindly trust people whether they regulars or not. The same way if I ban someone for being toxic I have to provide some proof if that person decides to come here for an appeal and ask for proof of his/her actions. I like to treat everyone on a same level, unlike some admins who show traits of favouritism.

Regarding my '''reputation'' here is that I couldn't care any less what people think of me. If people think I am a cunt, they are free to think that way. It does not affect me personally in any way whatsoever. That being said should anyone have a 'problem' with feel free to contact me privately on the forum/steam.


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post Aug 29 2015, 12:08 PM
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It does reflect back upon the rest of us, sweet bucket.

And an outsider may not be up to date on the habits of the SM forum wink.gif
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post Aug 29 2015, 12:25 PM
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SM will always have 'enemies' I know this for a fact because of the fair amount of butthurt kids that are banned for mostly racist language. And if people wish to judge entire SM because of me, well then perhaps the problems isnt entirely on me then tongue.gif

You should go ahead and ask people such as Kaiser etc why they hate SM you will find out it isn't because of me smile.gif While I appreciate you being honest to me and caring about the reputation of the group, I suggest you look a little further than just me wink.gif


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post Aug 29 2015, 07:23 PM
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OK Bucket,

Thank you so much to share your though here

My opening post is crystal clear.
I didn't ask any of you to "thrust me blindly", I asked to, PLEASE, look the logs.
Logs are as good as it get in term of proof.

So instead of taking a free ride to question my common sense or honesty, you should just pass...
You don't care anyway so why bother?

This is what you should think about, why do you bother?
Don't get any pride in being autistic, this is not something very useful in humans interactions...





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post Aug 29 2015, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE (Obi-Wan Kenobi @ Aug 29 2015, 09:23 PM) *
OK Bucket,

Thank you so much to share your though here


No problem, just doing my job.

QUOTE (Obi-Wan Kenobi @ Aug 29 2015, 09:23 PM) *
My opening post is crystal clear.


I never said it wasn't.

QUOTE (Obi-Wan Kenobi @ Aug 29 2015, 09:23 PM) *
I didn't ask any of you to "thrust me blindly", I asked to, PLEASE, look the logs.


I was speaking in general and from my POV, like I said before we can't access the logs only MF can and hes on holiday, so take screenshots the next time.

QUOTE (Obi-Wan Kenobi @ Aug 29 2015, 09:23 PM) *
So instead of taking a free ride to question my common sense or honesty, you should just pass...


To me, it makes sense when I report a player, I provide some screenshots so any admin can look at the shots when that person was misbehaving (in the chat).


QUOTE (Obi-Wan Kenobi @ Aug 29 2015, 09:23 PM) *
You don't care anyway so why bother?

This is what you should think about, why do you bother?


If I didn't cared then I wouldn't posted a reply, I would've simply ignored it and moved along, except I didn't because I am an admin and its still my 'job'.

QUOTE (Obi-Wan Kenobi @ Aug 29 2015, 09:23 PM) *
Don't get any pride in being autistic, this is not something very useful in humans interactions...


Bold move to say something like that during your recruitment, lets see how that works out for you kisskiss.gif

Also while I may be a cunt, I still remained polite, but I don't really care honestly because I personally feel as an admin you should be able to brush off verbal abuse.

That being said, I wish you good luck in your recruitment smile.gif




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post Aug 29 2015, 08:37 PM
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Bold move ? tongue.gif

In all honesty it's the best move I could do ^^

The sooner the better!


I clearly made a misjudgement at some point, so at least this is the good thing you achieved here bucket!


Good job you're so great doing it


Cheers
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post Aug 29 2015, 10:18 PM
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What the fuck? Why is everyone so hostile all of a sudden. Also, this thread just turned into everyone flaming bucket, so I guess I might as well join in. Bucket get cancer and die please.


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post Aug 29 2015, 10:25 PM
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Yeah fuck you Bucket, you stupid cunt, I hope you get herpes!


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post Aug 29 2015, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE (Bucket @ Aug 29 2015, 11:25 PM) *
Yeah fuck you Bucket, you stupid cunt, I hope you get herpes!


Wait what, I thought you already got herpes from Terry?



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post Aug 30 2015, 09:25 AM
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Obi: screenshots are appreciated as we can take more immediate action with those. Monkey's currently on a short vacation so going through the chatlogs is going to have to wait as he's the only one with access (that we know of anyway tongue.gif ). Do you know in what vein the insults were? Some examples?

And thanks for reporting him smile.gif
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post Aug 30 2015, 12:47 PM
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Hey Obi-wan.

Thank you for reporting it. As already said in various ways, we can't check the logs atm so indeed a screenshot could have allowed us to take a quick action against the rulebreaker.
Please be patient until MonkeyFiend comes back, but rest assured we will keep an eye on Son of meme.

Please, let's all approach this in a professional way and hold this request for a week until we get the needed evidence.
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post Sep 7 2015, 08:44 AM
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I've now set a full ban on son of meme.

Although we can check through logs, bucket's polite request that "For future reference please take screenshots, thank you. " is reasonable. We do get people reporting users for stuff that didn't actually happen; chivalry (and UE3 engine games) don't by default log chat/teamkills etc., so we rely on custom written tools to do so, which are flaky at the best of times. People familiar with chiv know this and some abuse the fact and try to report people for stuff that didn't happen.

The point is, if something occurs on a server when an admin isn't around it takes a second to get definitive proof with a screenshot. However by just reporting something going on, it means someone (me usually tongue.gif) has to trawl through the server log files fishing for info. So it's not really an unusual request. The official server require either screenshots/video evidence or an official server admin to be online. The devs and admins of official servers typically would never look through the logs.

I was a little surprised by your followup "Then I will look for other option... " - a somewhat veiled threat.

Since son of meme is banned, will close this thread.
Your recruitment application is also rejected.


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