My long moan about Project Reality Options

[MonkeyFiend]

read this if you can be arsed, I only wrote this to justify my thoughts on PR, while waiting for a fat program to compile...

Basically I downloaded it again after briefly playing an older version. My first impressions are that it has quite a bit of potential. The new training servers were handy for getting me use to various kits/vehicles without people bitching and moaning or insiting they fly because it's their server etc.,

However I've found relatively few servers playing, a lot of the servers I've been on have featured people TK'ing for vehicles, abuse of assets, childish behaviour and racism (often with no kick vote or players that just dont care, lack of admin etc.,) and the impact of cheats which I've seen a few is greater than bf2.

Spending 20 minutes getting to a point only to have someone crash the server was not fun.

I've no issues with the new weapons and vehicles as such, to be honest I quite like them. However I did find the medic system unintuitive.

I base my opinions on a couple of games with some from R6, a few hours of random squads and probably about 20 hours of games with EB staff (who knew all the levels like the back of their hands)

I have to admit I like the teamwork elements, however I did find the spawn times excessive. While making assets like helicopters more valuable, the long spawn times mean you're often left waiting, especially when someone sharks an asset then totals it within 20 seconds. This would be avoided if everyone were truely working together, however this just doesn't happen on public servers; players work as squads because they have to, but not as a team as a whole.

Now I don't want jumping on rockets insta-respawn a la UT, however the pace of PR is too slow for my liking, even with rally points near the fight. In probably the 20-30 games I've played, regardless of being superior to the enemy or getting our asses kicked, I've never found the battles to be intense, more a series of disjointed skirmishes.

Now even after all of this I've still not given up on the game - perhaps it will grow on me, so I'll play some more of it.

However please don't dismiss my opinions as lacking in knowledge - although I don't have as many hours as some I would like to think my knowledge of games dating backs from wolfenstein3d, encompassing many strategic games (hell even a HNC in military tactics... don't ask ), 'realisitic' fps games like americas army etc., and a working knowledge of bf2 along with the hours I've put into PR would stand me in good stead to make comment. I know it's a different game and I have spent time learning it (ok I may not be a master of PR, but I at least know what's going on)

I've also found the 'community' of sorts to contain a high propertion of wankers - many people are just retards (tk'ers/general flamers), while others have the truly vile arrogant and aloof cliquey type mentality. Often people are quick to blame others or condescend for 'lack of game knowledge' - even on training servers. (although I have met quite a few cool individuals too) - impact of people TKing is also higher since you don't just respawn in 15 seconds back into the action.

I suspect this is inherant of the game type - making a more realitisitc more hardcore FPS attracts the more 'hardcore' crowd, who often think that by making the game more hardcore (complex/difficult etc.,)means they are possess 'skillz' etc., that players of other games couldn't possibly have, which makes them better than players of other games. There's a surprising number of PR players that have told me BF2 is for noobs. None of which have managed to justify this statement.

Overall, the game is good on a technical, reailistic levels.. however I've not found it particularily fun.

Now Flame away....

[=R6= Raile]

i see what you mean by the tk making more of an impact.. just in my experience it doesn't happen that much, unless you are on an un-admin'd server. what else can you do really though? if there is a hacker making life difficult for you on vanilla, it's going to suck too. less maybe, but still force you to go elsewhere.

hmm.. all of those maps can be cool, but some are most definitely better then others. most of these maps are the smallest ones in PR btw..
bi ming and tad sae are very small maps, and dont have any real hot zone type places. its a lot more of skirmishes between squads.
barracuda, IMO, is not a very balanced map. it has potential to be AWESOME, but with the random flags, it is possible for all the flags to be on the western part of the map, which is much more open, and tends to be more fighting in small squads.. where as the eastern part of the map, is one of my favourite places to fight in all of PR. the other night we played on that map and every flag spawned on the west side.. and it wasnt that fun. so that map needs work IMO, and most definitely you might have thought it had no epic battles.
well i shouldnt list them all, but the others definitely have some epic feels.. sunset city is pretty much an epic battle EVERY TIME! its only one flag in the middle of a small city.. everyone fighting over it.. not sure how that isn't epic?

well, I ask what is better, because I guess I assume that if you are trying it out then you want something to play that is atleast similar to what it's trying to do. If you aren't looking for something like that, then sure, it's far from a perfect game. Me, I've always hated how arcade like BF2 was. but it was the best game at the time. If you are just looking for a game to be fun, then maybe it isn't for you. There are loads of games out there that might be more fun. Sure, you might think L4D is more fun, but it's a totally different type of game. There aren't any other games out there that are similar to what PR is trying to do, that are better. I guess it depends what you are looking for.