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post Dec 3 2016, 01:56 AM
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Tonight I have been kicked with the accusation of intentional Teamkill / revenge teamkill. The alleged victim is Wisdom Like Silence. The Mod who kicked me should be Rotor.

I want hereby affirm that I have never, in my 800+ hours on Chivalry, I have never killed someone on purpose. When I am really pissed I try to clarify through the gamechat. When I am really mad for being intentionally teamkilled the most I do is to kick once(F) or kickvote the teamkiller.
The alleged victim did insult me (I have screenshot) in past for a dumb but not intentional teamkill from me. I did not respond to his insult. I did not bear a grudge against for the insult.
Today Wisdom Like Silence damaged me on purpose (I have not screenshots though) and I warned him to stop (I have screenshot). I don't know my td rate at the moment of the kick, but I think it was around 10%.
My td rate is seldom higher than 12% because I hate to ruin other players' game by damaging them.

I get teamkilled every day by comrades. I stopped asking for apologies a while ago, while I say "sry" as many times as possible when I teamkill/damage.
I am not a teamkiller. I have never teamkilled on purpose, and I will never do that.

Since I have had a very bad day and I was trying to relax when the mod kicked me, I am now quite displeased for what I see as an unjustified kick.

Regards
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DHJ_
post Dec 4 2016, 02:18 AM
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QUOTE (Sir Robin (not so brave) @ Dec 3 2016, 09:57 AM) *
I can understand your feelings, DHJ_. I'm not the admin who kicked you, so I'm not saying what he or she saw. I just want to clarify what happens from our perspective.

Often times when somebody "just" kick a teammate for whatever reason, the kicked party tries to return the kick or even to attack. Sometimes they don't know who kicked them and they attack the most suspicious looking one (yes, it happened to me a couple of times). Even if they get the right player, often this leads to others getting involved and chaos ensues. That's why we don't allow intentional team damage.

When I see somebody kicking teammates, even once, I may choose to kick them with a message, if I think they may miss the one in the chat. I don't know why they chose to kick their teammate and they may feel like the victim. But I saw a kick or attack, I know what often happens after that so I issue this warning.

Another thing you should be aware is, that it's much easier to spot players who do "bad" things, than players who behave. That is, you claim that you never intentionally team kill and I assume it's true. But there's no way for us to know that. Unless somebody specifically watched you playing and observed how you react on provocation (intentional or otherwise), we don't know.

What I'm trying to say is, that you should continue to play the way you described and not take this kick as injustice. In most cases we have no way to know the whole story so we cannot serve justice. The best we can do is try to make the server a pleasant place to be.

Thank you Robin for your clarification over the Admin role.
I have never been kicked for teamkilling on SM server(s). That should at least result on the server logs (no idea how much time they cover though). The same logs maybe report my td rate?
About the kick practice, I don’t want to embark in an argument on this topic: I’ll just say that as long as I have seen as player and as observer, if someone deserved a kick he won’t start a fight over it. About me, I used it no more than 6-7 times, mostly when I was a noob. (I know, I know: again, you got only my words).

Now that I remember, I think Aneki observed me a couple of times. That may not count, of course, but I had good matches this summer with him and Sir Joe.


QUOTE (rotor @ Dec 3 2016, 11:31 AM) *
It gets chaotic sometimes esp. when there are ping/pkt loss problems and swings are everywhere.

I came online to check pkt losses and fixed it by banning some odd ones.

I gave you a warning not to revenge TD.

Wait - wait - wait. I am not sure to understand. Have you kicked me for my pkt loss without warning me beforehand and then you added a warning not related to the real kick reason?
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Bear in mind that others also have bad days/week and do not provoke or warn people by kicking/hitting them on purpose - this starts fights.

QUOTE (surprise_FIN @ Dec 3 2016, 03:41 PM) *
If you are having bad day, best option is just quit playing like I do


You know, there are foundamentally two kind of people: those who after a bad day go to the bar and are likely to cause some mess. And then there are those who sit at their table and drink silently. Well, I am the last one. A cup of tea, please happy.gif.

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