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Odio
post May 23 2016, 08:23 PM
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Hello everyone, i go directly to the core, and sorry if my eglish may be bad.

Reason of the topic:

1- Plou Plou changed map to "Colosseum" (after we finished Drunken Bazaar, and he put game speed at 10%, just check it) without asking anyone and especially without opening a poll to see if we wanted to play it (it's long time i see he do it), then he canceled my 2 votes to change the map. After i reported in the forum what he was doing, and another player (i don't remember the name) opened another poll, Plou left the vote on and listen, listen, the vote succeeded and we finally go pack to TO maps. Strange thing? not at all, since no one asked for that map it is normal that peoples wanted to play TO maps. And even if he aske in chat and 2 peoples on 50 acccept that map change this does not mean anything, that's why you need a certain % on the vote poll. This happened around 3.00/3.05 oclock a.m. GMT +2
Here you are the almost full list of players/witnessers that were playing in that moment: http://s33.postimg.org/chyozg0en/20160523030608_1.jpg

2- Then, around 20.10 GMT +2 i enter in your server and there was colosseum, i think it was about 8 minute left until the end of the map, General Tanz opened a poll to change map, the vote was canceled, then i tried myself to open a vote too, that got canceled. Then again another player and then again General Tanz opened it again to see both canceled too. There was a last vote that was left on because the map was eneded anyway, Neojorge won the match. I maybe be wrong with the total votes, but im sure i saw General Tanz calling it twice plus one from me.
Here is the almost full list of all players/witnessers of that moment: http://s33.postimg.org/a83om2pe7/20160523201535_1.jpg

For me it's ok to play other maps, it is not ok that admin have to do it in that way, and that way is called "abusing admin's power". If the majority want to play a map, then we change and play that map. If you Plou, want to play a map, you should use the poll system, because forcing players playing a map that you want to it's not fair at all. Not to mention that all the times i was on and you do the intentional changes, even long time ago, i've almost always saw vote poll succeeded to bring back TO maps. Or why don't you just put those maps in the rotation?
Canceling votes from trolls or that has no reason to be done it's surely ok, canceling votes because you fear that it is gonna succeeded and so you can't play that map, well... this action talk alot by itself.

I hope i have been clear and detailed as much as possible. if you want more proofs like videos, let me explain it's really hard to predict the future to understand when pressing the registering button to catch him up while doing these bad action. Even worse, no one shuld expext such behaviour from an admin. (Now of course i pay more attention)

Yours is the only playable and funnier server of the whole chivalry game, have those type of bad thing should make feel bad. But things can be fixed, can't be?

Oh and please don't start to the same story you like to write: "But we are volounteer, we want to have fun... etc.." Because volounteer or not, payed or for free, happy or sad when you apply as admin you have to be neutral and then, first you are an admin, second a player. If not you can't be called admin, but only a player that can (ab)use the power whenever he need/want. And of course, if i don't give priority to adminship why the hell have i applied for that? If i don't like have that responsability, i don't apply at all. Think a bit, having powers can be delicious (yeah sorry i know this can be a bit off topic, but i want just to express my opinion in a gently way and not to be misunderstood at all.)

Thanks in advance, see you ingame.
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post May 24 2016, 01:09 AM
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Canceling votes is something we do daily.
1. Most people spam votes
2. Most votes pass because people don't read them, just accept to get rid of teh message box
3. If an admin change the map into something different from the map rotation and a vote is made to return to the map ratation, it's usually cancelled. Map rotation will come back right after the current map, no need to vote for it.
4. A lot of player's systems can't handle fast map changing. If the map is just starting, voting is problematic.

Asking on the server if they want a map change and expecting more than 4 or 5 guys to answer is a fream.

If Plou Plou was constalty changing maps, without letting players play 1 or 2 TO maps inbetween, then that was bad.
If Plou Plou changed map once or twice every hour, I don't see a problem. Unless the whole server was an angry mod against the changes, which I doubt.

Again, I can see your point Odio, but I don't think it's as bad ans you make it sound. I'm sure if you think about it, a little variation makes the server even better. I believe Plou Plou would have stopped making map changes if you have said some thing like "Please, Plou Plou, can we play the normal maps now? I'm really craving for some TO." Or something similar.

@Plou Plou did you announce on chat that the next map was going to be X? Did you wait until the end of the current map? I usually do those two things before changing the map to citadel or some LTS and almost nobody complains.
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