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post Sep 22 2015, 05:17 PM
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My side of the story: Trolled by Mason Knight "Unicorn_J" I was another mason knight in the map Outpost, I was defending the Mason Chieftain next to spawn and he came over and started attacking the mason chieftain, after about 6 stabs I kicked him away, he didn't stop so I started attacking him, he started running away and I let him run, I went back to defending the chieftain, he came again and started attacking it again around 6 times, 4 other people started hitting him and he started running, I chased him down and killed him then I got a message "Int TK", I got banned. It seems he was writing in chat to admins that Im "intentionally teamkilling him" and the admins believed that, please next time don't ban until you check what's going on, my ban was unjustified I was simply doing what im supposed to do - defend the chieftains and he was trying to kill them/slow down their health regeneration, am I supposed to sit there and watch him troll my entire team, no idea who the admin was that banned me, and I wouldn't mind apologizing if it was my fault, but it really isn't, and there is nothing to apologize about from my part.

Ban date: 9/21/2015
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TurboMidget
post Sep 22 2015, 05:53 PM
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You're not a victim. You intentionally teamkilled, which is against the rules and you got banned for it. The context does not matter with this rule. If it's intentional, it's bannable.

As for the guy attacking his own chieftains, the admin should've dealt with him as well and hopefully did so. However, we also assume most people are mature enough to see he's baiting and can ignore him. If you didn't ignore him, that's your fault, not his and you should own up to the responsibility instead of trying to avoid it.

Edit: Porsuk already answered and he did indeed ban the other guy as well. Should you have any questions, feel free to ask them.
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post Sep 22 2015, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE (TurboMidget @ Sep 22 2015, 06:53 PM) *
You're not a victim. You intentionally teamkilled, which is against the rules and you got banned for it. The context does not matter with this rule. If it's intentional, it's bannable.

As for the guy attacking his own chieftains, the admin should've dealt with him as well and hopefully did so. However, we also assume most people are mature enough to see he's baiting and can ignore him. If you didn't ignore him, that's your fault, not his and you should own up to the responsibility instead of trying to avoid it.

Edit: Porsuk already answered and he did indeed ban the other guy as well. Should you have any questions, feel free to ask them.

Its not his fault for intentionally trolling and trying to bait people into getting banned, how is that not his fault?

I understand you are trying hard to be "right" but honestly, you are making no sense trying to enforce your view on this subject is just starting to sound repressive, especially since you said the "admin" should've banned the guy baiting but also "its not his fault" so why would he get banned - if it isn't his fault?

Its hard to follow up with you when you change your stance on this subject within a single phrase.

Own up to the responsability I got baited into being banned, what responsability is there from that? it was a bait, I fell for it and got banned as a result, there is nothing to be responsible about, I got banned because I got baited, the troll got what he wanted.

Obligatory edit: I think you mean I need to be responsible about the intentional TK part, Yes I intentionally killed him because he was attacking the chieftains like I wrote a few posts ago, I'm responsible for killing him, however think of it was self-defense, you can't imprison someone who is defending himself, or someone else from assault.

Take a defenseless Mason Chieftain for example I saw him being assaulted and tried to save him from the assaulter - do I get prosecuted and imprisoned for doing the right thing here?
As I said I let him go but he was a persistant troll and I didn't know mason chieftains don't take damage from teammates, also slow down their health regen.

My bad for actually caring about the objective during that map - as I said I should stop caring about the objectives and simply focus on killing the enemy team from now on.
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post Sep 22 2015, 06:38 PM
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You teamkilled, not the other guy. You made the decision to attack and you're facing the consequenses of it. Don't try to blame it on the other guy because it was not him who pushed the button.

However, this issue is resolved, so I'm done with this discussion. I don't see it coming to anything fruitful so I'm not going to bother.
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