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post Aug 7 2015, 10:24 PM
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So, after much thought and cost induced heart attacks, I have decided that instead of a crappy ol' laptop, I'm going to join the elite of the master race and not just get a PC, but build it as well with literally 0 seconds of experience in building anything remotely mechanical or electrical, yes I know I AM so brave, but when I have youtube videos and tutorials as my sword and hopefully you guys as my shield, I'm pretty sure I can do this.

Talked with monkey quite a bit about this, and because of the legend he is, he procured a list of the finest components for this beast at a reasonable price (I'm only 16 I don't have wads of cash to spend like you guys)

Here is said list with links and stuff:

cooling gel - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Arctic-Cooling-MX-...HDP1RJXAW3ZGZRS £3.95

motherboard - http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00K8KJ..._1_1&sr=8-1 £91.74

CPU - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Core-i7-4790...HDP1RJXAW3ZGZRS £256.90

RAM - http://www.amazon.co.uk/HyperX-Series-1866...HDP1RJXAW3ZGZRS £35.54

fans - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-Series-AF1...HDP1RJXAW3ZGZRS £17.36

case - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CC-9011052...HDP1RJXAW3ZGZRS £47.38

Hard drive - http://www.amazon.co.uk/WD-Desktop-SATA-Dr...=2tb+hard+drive £60.48

SSD - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-2-5-Inch-S...HDP1RJXAW3ZGZRS £73.13

graphics card - http://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-GTX-980-Graphi...eywords=gtx+980 £405.77

monitor - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-VE228TR-Wides...ords=hd+monitor £86.99

The total cost of it with a monitor as well (ikr mad innit?) is just under £1080

You may be thinking, "hey you stupid hobbit, listen 'ere m9, stop bragging and being so awesome" but it cannot be helped and also, I really do need your help, since, as I said before, I have no experience in doing this, I have never even owned a PC of my own, let alone built one.

Monkey told me to ask you guys if you have any objections or recommendations to the components listed above, such as a cheaper option or whatever you can think of; any help is greatly appreciated! I will probably be ordering this stuff after the 20th of August, as this is riding on my GCSE's, so any input before then would be great.

Thanks in advance,

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post Aug 17 2015, 01:07 PM
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As I said, closer to the purchase of my new pc I would post the list of all the new components you guys have mentioned throughout the thread.

cooling gel - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Arctic-Cooling-MX-...HDP1RJXAW3ZGZRS £3.95

motherboard - http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00K8KJ..._1_1&sr=8-1 £91.74

CPU - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Core-i7-4790...HDP1RJXAW3ZGZRS £256.90

RAM - http://www.amazon.co.uk/HyperX-Series-1866...HDP1RJXAW3ZGZRS £35.54

case - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CC-9011050...ds=corsair+case
}£63.90
fans - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-Series-AF1..._bxgy_147_img_y

Hard drive - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Seagate-Barracuda-...6894&sr=1-6 £54.99

SSD - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-2-5-Inch-S...HDP1RJXAW3ZGZRS £73.13

gpu - http://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-GTX-980-Graphi...eywords=gtx+980 £405.77

wrist strap - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Anti-Static-Wrist-...A4X3CJA6FMYV6FF £0.91

keyboard - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Trust-Elight-Illum...acklit+keyboard £34.99

CPU cooler - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-RR-2...HDP1RJXAW3ZGZRS £28.50

power supply - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-Builder-Se...HDP1RJXAW3ZGZRS £57.98

Thanks to Monkey I now have windows 8.1 pro (extremely cheeky) and an 8GB usb to store it on later today, just want to make sure I do the right things first though:

According to various websites, there is a download manager for windows OS that allows you to directly install it onto the usb, but I'm not sure if this allows you to boot up a pc instantly through the usb or if I need the iso image writing software as well for this to work.

The monitor is sorted as well, pretty damn huge (32 inches) but at least I don't need to buy one. Just wondering about the cables though, I've heard the VGA cable is better than a HDMI for monitor connections, or does it make very little difference?

Any final changes to the components I have listed above and will they all work together still? I don't want to budge on the GPU, CPU or RAM, but if there are any better/more cost effective components please mention them.

I will probably be buying it all on the 20th/21st and once it has been built then I will once again play chiv in glorious fps and graphics without my pc overheating to 80C.



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post Aug 17 2015, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE (Stupid Fat Hobbit! @ Aug 17 2015, 03:07 PM) *
According to various websites, there is a download manager for windows OS that allows you to directly install it onto the usb, but I'm not sure if this allows you to boot up a pc instantly through the usb or if I need the iso image writing software as well for this to work.


There are official tools but I had trouble with the Windows 7 USB/DVD Download tool where my ISO were not recognized. I ,then used Rufus, it burned smoothly and quicky my Win 8.1 ISO to a bootable USB. The tool wipes out the USB, makes it bootable and copies installation files on it.
If the Windows 10 tool doesnt work, Try Rufus : https://rufus.akeo.ie

QUOTE (Stupid Fat Hobbit! @ Aug 17 2015, 03:07 PM) *
The monitor is sorted as well, pretty damn huge (32 inches) but at least I don't need to buy one. Just wondering about the cables though, I've heard the VGA cable is better than a HDMI for monitor connections, or does it make very little difference?


I switched from 22 to 27" recently, I think using a bigger will cause headaches if you are not far enough tongue.gif

I'd say HDMI > DVI > VGA.
VGA is a analog only signal and is limited in resolution. Bound to disappear on gamer graphic cards.
DVI can be both, but you probably got a a digital only (http://www.networktechinc.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/DVI-connectors-type.jpg)
HDMI is digital and will also (except if its a old version) transmit sound if you got integrated speakers, wich would suck but anyway.
The main concern is to see what output your graphic card has : DVI-I (both analog and digital), HDMI and DisplayPort. Then check what your monitor have as input.

QUOTE (Stupid Fat Hobbit! @ Aug 17 2015, 03:07 PM) *
Any final changes to the components I have listed above and will they all work together still? I don't want to budge on the GPU, CPU or RAM, but if there are any better/more cost effective components please mention them.


In my opinion, i7 isn't a good fit for games. I got a i7 first gen for my last rig, and now i5 4'th gen and I find the new i5 more powerful for gaming. You only loose HyperThreading, which isn't useful (and can cause problems) in most cases for games but only useful for multitasking. A i5 is cheaper than a i7.

Also, I see you chose RAM clocked at 1866MHz but you CPU nativly manages 1600MHz. I'm not that experienced with overclocking but it's possible that your RAM would be downlocked to 1600MHz, and those designed for 1600 are slightly cheaper. Can someone tell if it would work anyway at 1866MHz ? http://ark.intel.com/fr/products/80807/Int...-up-to-4_40-GHz
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QUOTE (Yet Another Fool @ Aug 17 2015, 05:30 PM) *
In my opinion, i7 isn't a good fit for games. I got a i7 first gen for my last rig, and now i5 4'th gen and I find the new i5 more powerful for gaming. You only loose HyperThreading, which isn't useful (and can cause problems) in most cases for games but only useful for multitasking. A i5 is cheaper than a i7.


Ditto.

Wouldn't say i7 is actually bad for gaming, but it's definitely not better than i5. Most games are not threaded enough to benefit from hyperthreading, and even the threaded ones have parts/stages that depend almost entirely on single threads. So unless you're going to do tasks like 3D rendering or video editing you'll be better off with i5 since it's cheaper.


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