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Stormcrow
post Oct 10 2014, 08:19 PM
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Greetings all,
I have been a longtime lurker on Sneaky Monkeys, donated on occasion too. But due to over commitments to another gaming community have never bothered to socialize on the forums, I only ever voted. I know some of you know me, Some of you probably hate my feinting. However i thought i would say hello and ask a couple of questions regarding your servers as i recently discovered something i don't like very much and didn't believe was going on involving some of the SM admins on the chivalry server. Both friends and i frequently use your servers as they are nothing short of the best we find, However there seems to be an ever increasing number of random kicks being put down, Usually i wouldn't believe anyone when they told me that they were kicked from a round unfairly, That includes some of the other long time players, Which is both annoying when you have to wait to get a place back. But tonight i feel that i experienced this myself. While i will not name/shame anyone personally as its not something i found ever did any good. I have never had any problem with the server or admins in all the time i have played on there, Except Sneeky because he kicks me into rivers, At 19:40 10/10/2014 I was kicked for -annoying- behavior, With a claim that i was warned several times, Utterly shocked at this as i neither team kill/troll/block or do anything otherwise unacceptable i looked back through my Over wolf and found no such thing had occurred. After asking politely why i was kicked, I was given nothing short of a vague excuse and a reference to the SM house party rule. While we will always respect the server and its admin, I think that being clear to your players is only fair isnt it? Both in game and out?, You warn me about something, I will -always- listen, While i can appreciate a admin might be click happy when they are in a bad mood or feel someone has broken a rule (Two have admitted this to me themselves ^^). An explanation would be polite. I frequently role play in game for a laugh with friends and have never had anyone take issue with this, I have seen SM members take part time and time again for some comical fun. However on this occasion i was asked to tone it down and i did. Could someone please look back through the log and send me a message to explain why i was kicked? As far as i was aware a SM admin were not given the power to kick someone just because they personally found them -annoying- ... Or were they? If so, Ill have to rethink the way i play the game next time i kick Porsuk into a river.
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post Oct 10 2014, 08:53 PM
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10/10/2014 07:42:38 (76561198150324592) Stormcrow: Feeble Lions
10/10/2014 07:42:55 (76561198150324592) Stormcrow: We will burn your homes, rape your crying women, put your children into chains!!
10/10/2014 07:43:00 (76561198150324592) Stormcrow: To the citadel they will go!!
10/10/2014 07:43:17 (76561198043953474) =SM= TurboMidget: Stormcrow, don't take this too far...
10/10/2014 07:43:40 (76561198150324592) Stormcrow: Silence Midget Of The Masons!! Go forth and break the kneecaps of the Lion with your hammer
10/10/2014 07:43:54 (76561198150324592) Stormcrow: All shall know the Order now rules these lands
10/10/2014 07:43:54 (76561198043953474) =SM= TurboMidget: Storm, that wasn't midget the mason but midget the admin talking
10/10/2014 07:44:17 (76561198150324592) Stormcrow: Fool! There is no Admin, Only blue and red!!
10/10/2014 07:44:24 (76561198150324592) Stormcrow: The admin is a myth!!
10/10/2014 07:44:35 (76561198043953474) =SM= TurboMidget: Oh, for crying out loud... Storm, last warning. Behave or be kicked
10/10/2014 07:44:52 (76561198100448211) =SM= HackedPenguin: Stormcrow, try tp behave
10/10/2014 07:44:55 (76561198100448211) =SM= HackedPenguin: to*
10/10/2014 07:44:55 (76561198150324592) Stormcrow: What mockery speak ye!?
10/10/2014 07:45:08 (76561198150324592) Stormcrow: You tell your superior to behaive!!?
10/10/2014 07:45:12 (76561198043953474) =SM= TurboMidget: Well, he should snap out of it
10/10/2014 07:45:17 (76561198150324592) Stormcrow: Malrick will deal with you personally
10/10/2014 07:46:22 (76561198150324592) Stormcrow: It is part of the Mason Master Plan
10/10/2014 07:46:25 (76561198043953474) =SM= TurboMidget: It was a tactic used to break sieges by killing off the defenders
10/10/2014 07:46:29 (76561198150324592) Stormcrow: All will be revealed when we do it!!
10/10/2014 07:46:37 (76561198043953474) =SM= TurboMidget: But having to wait for months in-game makes for boring gameplay wink.gif
10/10/2014 07:46:39 (76561198150324592) Stormcrow: We shall see what you filthy loyalists hide in these mountains
10/10/2014 07:47:01 (76561198150324592) Stormcrow: I swear, By the rains that water the mud, Every Lion shall die here
10/10/2014 07:47:11 (76561198150324592) Stormcrow: Except for that penguin
10/10/2014 07:47:17 (76561198150324592) Stormcrow: He will be our tavern wench!!
10/10/2014 07:47:39 (76561198043953474) =SM= TurboMidget: There, out with him


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Meowric
post Oct 12 2014, 06:15 PM
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Time for me to weigh in with my godlike opinions

From what I can see stormcow joined the server and was in full roleplay mode (which is consistent behaviour), then came the comments of burning, rape and, much like The production of Tesco clothing, Child enslavement. However I suppose they are in keeping with such a game - listen to the knight VO on dark forest when he demands that he be 'brought the queen and kill the rest'. Perhaps it's a reference to chess? I hope so. I like chess.

So then comes the 'don't take this too far' - Sooo was this about the rape comments or the excessive roleplay spam in general. If the rapey comments warranted a kick*, then it could have been done here. Still this appears to be a warning. If the 'don't take it too far' was aimed at the roleplaying in general. I'd argue anyone roleplaying, has probably taken things too far already and needs some sort of intervention. Maybe someone should take away their foam axes and have a quiet word over a nice cup of tea.

QUOTE (Boring Old MonkeyFiend @ Oct 10 2014, 08:53 PM) *
'10/10/2014 07:43:40 (76561198150324592) Stormcow: Silence Midget Of The Masons!! Go forth and break the kneecaps of the Lion with your hammer '
'Storm, that wasn't midget the mason but midget the admin talking'


- midget the mason admin! This to me appears to be another warning.

QUOTE (Fat Beardy MonkeyFiend @ Oct 10 2014, 08:53 PM) *
<blah blah>
10/10/2014 07:44:17 (76561198150324592) Stormcow: Fool! There is no Admin, Only blue and red!!
10/10/2014 07:44:24 (76561198150324592) Stormcow: The admin is a myth!!


bah this game is set in medieval times, so someone in this era would know the latin administrare. -10 points from Huffle Puff.

then:
QUOTE (Stinky Nerd MonkeyFiend @ Oct 10 2014, 08:53 PM) *
"10/10/2014 07:44:35 (76561198043953474) =SM= TurboMidget: Oh, for crying out loud... Storm, last warning. Behave or be kicked "


- well the cryptic use of the word 'warning' makes me think this would in fact be some sort of warning. The 3rd one by my esteemed count

so more flirtatious back and forth.

eventually

QUOTE (Socially Inept MonkeyFiend @ Oct 10 2014, 08:53 PM) *
10/10/2014 07:47:11 (76561198150324592) Stormcow: Except for that penguin
10/10/2014 07:47:17 (76561198150324592) Stormcow: He will be our tavern wench!!
10/10/2014 07:47:39 (76561198043953474) =SM= TurboMidget: There, out with him


Now I may be reading this wrong, but it was only at the suggestion that penguin be made a tavern wench. This in itself is preposterous - penguins have flippers, can you imagine them serving drinks in a tavern? They'd spill drinks everywhere. They'd also be too short, unless you werelying on the floor trying to get drinks and that normally only happens later in my nights out. Although I concede some sort of strapped on drinks table contraption like they put on r2d2 in return of the jedi might work. Then again it didn't turn out so well for Jabba the hut.

So using my Sherlockholmesian powers of deduction the implications are that there was some flirting going on here and only when stormcow suggested the involvement of a third party (penguin) did the rage of hypothetic betrayal result in a kick from the server.

So in summary:

There were at least 3 warnings before a kick
Penguins do not make good waiters
Never suggest a threesome unless all parties are up for it


rambling on..

Is RP allowed? Yes - there's nothing saying it's not. Although there probably should be. Filthy roleplayers. Get a job and cut your lank greasy hair!
Are rape comments allowed? no rules against them afaik. Especially from context - it's not like the comment was aimed at someone in particular e.g. I'm going to creep out from under your bed tonight and push your poo. Plenty of raferences in game to gangrape that go unpunished.
Was it spammy? yeah quite a bit of text. No one really complained though (for serverwide disruption) and if that's the problem, can always mute or at least say he's being kicked for being a 'spammy mofo'
Were there warnings before the kick? Amongst the flirtatious subtext, yes 3 of them

So there were warnings and the was a kick. If the kick was due to comments regarding 'forced lovin'' then that could have happened earlier in the conov. If the kick was due to spammification then this could have been mentioned.

Afaict the kick was done legitimately after some warnings, however whether the kick should have been made for either rape comments or general spam I don't believe it breaks any particular rules.

The general convo from stormcow didn't seem to break any particular rules unless you're being overly strict on their interpretation.

Finally..



I concede I might have been wrong about my comments regarding penguins serving drinks.


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- Stormcrow   Set Me Straight With A PoleHammer   Oct 10 2014, 08:19 PM
- - TurboMidget   QUOTE (Stormcrow @ Oct 10 2014, 09:19 PM)...   Oct 10 2014, 08:32 PM
- - MonkeyFiend   10/10/2014 07:42:38 (76561198150324592) Stormcrow:...   Oct 10 2014, 08:53 PM
|- - Meowric   Time for me to weigh in with my godlike opinions ...   Oct 12 2014, 06:15 PM
- - Dithyrambique   I don't understand why he get kicked/banned af...   Oct 10 2014, 09:22 PM
- - TurboMidget   10/10/2014 07:46:25 (76561198043953474) =SM= Turbo...   Oct 10 2014, 10:14 PM
|- - Stormcrow   QUOTE (TurboMidget @ Oct 10 2014, 10:14 P...   Oct 11 2014, 06:53 AM
|- - MonkeyFiend   QUOTE (TurboMidget @ Oct 10 2014, 10:14 P...   Oct 11 2014, 12:51 PM
- - Dithyrambique   It was a kick or a ban tho' ?   Oct 10 2014, 10:45 PM
- - Muk   I wont hide the fact i disagree with many of the d...   Oct 10 2014, 11:32 PM
- - TurboMidget   QUOTE (Dithyrambique @ Oct 10 2014, 11:45...   Oct 11 2014, 07:18 AM
- - Dithyrambique   Yea a ban could be a bit harsh but no need to be a...   Oct 11 2014, 12:26 PM
- - AsDeR   Stormcrow, you weren't kicked for roleplaying,...   Oct 11 2014, 12:37 PM
|- - Stormcrow   QUOTE (AsDeR @ Oct 11 2014, 12:37 PM) Sto...   Oct 11 2014, 04:32 PM
|- - Yet Another Fool   This is just a message to a regular player from a ...   Oct 11 2014, 05:16 PM
- - TurboMidget   QUOTE (MonkeyFiend @ Oct 11 2014, 01:51 P...   Oct 11 2014, 04:45 PM
|- - Stormcrow   QUOTE (TurboMidget @ Oct 11 2014, 04:45 P...   Oct 11 2014, 05:46 PM
- - HackedPenguin   Everyone has bad days every once in a while, after...   Oct 11 2014, 04:46 PM
- - AsDeR   Well, everyone has expressed their opinions now, a...   Oct 11 2014, 10:58 PM
- - fido77   It is an unusual kick here. I have not read the ru...   Oct 12 2014, 06:24 AM
- - Sonne   I'm with Turbo on this one. I can see where he...   Oct 12 2014, 05:51 PM
- - TurboMidget   Sonne, perfectly explained. His attitude is what...   Oct 12 2014, 07:25 PM
- - Stormcrow   After speaking to a few SM admins, And even lookin...   Oct 18 2014, 08:16 AM
|- - HackedPenguin   QUOTE (Stormcrow @ Oct 18 2014, 08:16 AM)...   Oct 18 2014, 09:54 AM
|- - TurboMidget   QUOTE (Stormcrow @ Oct 18 2014, 09:16 AM)...   Oct 18 2014, 12:40 PM
- - AsDeR   Chopping off heads? I agree. Pride is such a bitch...   Oct 18 2014, 11:12 AM


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