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Stormcrow
post Oct 10 2014, 08:19 PM
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Greetings all,
I have been a longtime lurker on Sneaky Monkeys, donated on occasion too. But due to over commitments to another gaming community have never bothered to socialize on the forums, I only ever voted. I know some of you know me, Some of you probably hate my feinting. However i thought i would say hello and ask a couple of questions regarding your servers as i recently discovered something i don't like very much and didn't believe was going on involving some of the SM admins on the chivalry server. Both friends and i frequently use your servers as they are nothing short of the best we find, However there seems to be an ever increasing number of random kicks being put down, Usually i wouldn't believe anyone when they told me that they were kicked from a round unfairly, That includes some of the other long time players, Which is both annoying when you have to wait to get a place back. But tonight i feel that i experienced this myself. While i will not name/shame anyone personally as its not something i found ever did any good. I have never had any problem with the server or admins in all the time i have played on there, Except Sneeky because he kicks me into rivers, At 19:40 10/10/2014 I was kicked for -annoying- behavior, With a claim that i was warned several times, Utterly shocked at this as i neither team kill/troll/block or do anything otherwise unacceptable i looked back through my Over wolf and found no such thing had occurred. After asking politely why i was kicked, I was given nothing short of a vague excuse and a reference to the SM house party rule. While we will always respect the server and its admin, I think that being clear to your players is only fair isnt it? Both in game and out?, You warn me about something, I will -always- listen, While i can appreciate a admin might be click happy when they are in a bad mood or feel someone has broken a rule (Two have admitted this to me themselves ^^). An explanation would be polite. I frequently role play in game for a laugh with friends and have never had anyone take issue with this, I have seen SM members take part time and time again for some comical fun. However on this occasion i was asked to tone it down and i did. Could someone please look back through the log and send me a message to explain why i was kicked? As far as i was aware a SM admin were not given the power to kick someone just because they personally found them -annoying- ... Or were they? If so, Ill have to rethink the way i play the game next time i kick Porsuk into a river.
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post Oct 12 2014, 05:51 PM
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I'm with Turbo on this one. I can see where he is coming from. A lot of the action taken by admins is up to admin discretion. Stormcrow was not only warned multiple times but also denied being warned and kept on with the disruptive behavior. Turbo had full rights to kick there, I can even quote from the rules :

"Admins have the rights to remove players from game for reasons such as excessively high ping (typically around 200ms although this may be lower/higher depending on server performance) or for behaviour that is considered disruptive to the server as a whole, including excessive use of high-fov 3rd person VG overheads (these players should be warned and kicked first)"

Furthermore,

"@regarding trolls: admins do not have to explain themselves to the server in general . Think of the servers like a house party that we're inviting you to. You turn up and start belittling, patronizing and condescending the hosts, their house or other guests and unsurprisingly you'd be asked to leave, or just be thrown out. Same applies to our servers."

On the "belittling, patronizing and condescending" part, you did say the following things towards the admins, which come under the aforementioned categories:

10/10/2014 07:43:40 (76561198150324592) Stormcrow: Silence Midget Of The Masons!!

10/10/2014 07:44:17 (76561198150324592) Stormcrow: Fool! There is no Admin [toward Turbo]

10/10/2014 07:45:08 (76561198150324592) Stormcrow: You tell your superior to behaive!!? [toward Turbo]

10/10/2014 07:47:17 (76561198150324592) Stormcrow: He will be our tavern wench!! [toward Penguin]

Sure, you were roleplaying. But that doesn't mean you get to be an asshole to the admins. Plus, you were warned several times to stop, which you ignored:

10/10/2014 07:43:17 (76561198043953474) =SM= TurboMidget: Stormcrow, don't take this too far... [to which you replied to with 'Silence Midget of the Masons']

10/10/2014 07:43:54 (76561198043953474) =SM= TurboMidget: Storm, that wasn't midget the mason but midget the admin talking [to which you replied with 'Fool! There is no admin']

10/10/2014 07:44:35 (76561198043953474) =SM= TurboMidget: Oh, for crying out loud... Storm, last warning. Behave or be kicked

10/10/2014 07:44:52 (76561198100448211) =SM= HackedPenguin: Stormcrow, try to behave [To these two you replied with 'You tell your superior to behaive?!']

In my opinion, that kick should be expanded to a temp ban for being an asshole to admins and for how you handled this situation. After messaging the admin, demanding an explanation, Turbo explained why he kicked you but rather than understanding why you were kicked, you decided it was a good idea to blame the admin for everything and then ask for an apology.

EDIT: Source for the rules quotes ('source' is the embedded link).
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- Stormcrow   Set Me Straight With A PoleHammer   Oct 10 2014, 08:19 PM
- - TurboMidget   QUOTE (Stormcrow @ Oct 10 2014, 09:19 PM)...   Oct 10 2014, 08:32 PM
- - MonkeyFiend   10/10/2014 07:42:38 (76561198150324592) Stormcrow:...   Oct 10 2014, 08:53 PM
|- - Meowric   Time for me to weigh in with my godlike opinions ...   Oct 12 2014, 06:15 PM
- - Dithyrambique   I don't understand why he get kicked/banned af...   Oct 10 2014, 09:22 PM
- - TurboMidget   10/10/2014 07:46:25 (76561198043953474) =SM= Turbo...   Oct 10 2014, 10:14 PM
|- - Stormcrow   QUOTE (TurboMidget @ Oct 10 2014, 10:14 P...   Oct 11 2014, 06:53 AM
|- - MonkeyFiend   QUOTE (TurboMidget @ Oct 10 2014, 10:14 P...   Oct 11 2014, 12:51 PM
- - Dithyrambique   It was a kick or a ban tho' ?   Oct 10 2014, 10:45 PM
- - Muk   I wont hide the fact i disagree with many of the d...   Oct 10 2014, 11:32 PM
- - TurboMidget   QUOTE (Dithyrambique @ Oct 10 2014, 11:45...   Oct 11 2014, 07:18 AM
- - Dithyrambique   Yea a ban could be a bit harsh but no need to be a...   Oct 11 2014, 12:26 PM
- - AsDeR   Stormcrow, you weren't kicked for roleplaying,...   Oct 11 2014, 12:37 PM
|- - Stormcrow   QUOTE (AsDeR @ Oct 11 2014, 12:37 PM) Sto...   Oct 11 2014, 04:32 PM
|- - Yet Another Fool   This is just a message to a regular player from a ...   Oct 11 2014, 05:16 PM
- - TurboMidget   QUOTE (MonkeyFiend @ Oct 11 2014, 01:51 P...   Oct 11 2014, 04:45 PM
|- - Stormcrow   QUOTE (TurboMidget @ Oct 11 2014, 04:45 P...   Oct 11 2014, 05:46 PM
- - HackedPenguin   Everyone has bad days every once in a while, after...   Oct 11 2014, 04:46 PM
- - AsDeR   Well, everyone has expressed their opinions now, a...   Oct 11 2014, 10:58 PM
- - fido77   It is an unusual kick here. I have not read the ru...   Oct 12 2014, 06:24 AM
- - Sonne   I'm with Turbo on this one. I can see where he...   Oct 12 2014, 05:51 PM
- - TurboMidget   Sonne, perfectly explained. His attitude is what...   Oct 12 2014, 07:25 PM
- - Stormcrow   After speaking to a few SM admins, And even lookin...   Oct 18 2014, 08:16 AM
|- - HackedPenguin   QUOTE (Stormcrow @ Oct 18 2014, 08:16 AM)...   Oct 18 2014, 09:54 AM
|- - TurboMidget   QUOTE (Stormcrow @ Oct 18 2014, 09:16 AM)...   Oct 18 2014, 12:40 PM
- - AsDeR   Chopping off heads? I agree. Pride is such a bitch...   Oct 18 2014, 11:12 AM


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