=FaRT= Clan New Server Options

[=FaRT= skutaboy]

To all our friendly clans, I would just like to inform you that our new server is up and running: IP = 8.9.11.153:16567

Three map rotation currently set for Mashtuur City, Strike at Karkand & Sharqui Peninsula.

It would be cool if you visited us to help it get established.

Thanks,

=FaRT= skutaboy.

[quasi_evil]

Raile,

I think that is an interesting take, but have you considered this: many server do have obscure rules or certainly one could make the argument that some servers have gray areas in the interpretation of the rules. This was even discussed on the 30+ thread post I mention previously. Now take maniac's point of spawn rape, is it spawn rape if we take the tank to south gas, in an attempt to not only steal the BH, but also cap the flag thus giving our side a double advantage? At what point is it considered spawn rape? Does a certain time have to pass that no forward progress is being made, what would actually be the determining factor. Would we even need human admins if the rules were iron clad? My point is this, one man's spawn rape is another man's valid strategy for enhancing his teams chances of winning. My recollection was that for the most part the flag was taken or attempted to be taken after the BH was stolen. Seems like a valid strategy to me, and if I was either warned or kicked for it first, it would have stopped.

Now what does that have to do with your post: warnings are useful tools for the admins to communicate to the users that their behavior is not acceptable. The user can argue the behavior at a latter date if he thinks the rules are not being broken, but the admin's wishes should be observed by the user and the user should use the prescribed channels to air his grievances if he thinks his actions do not violate server rules. The kick after the warning can be necessary to get their attention as sometimes the scroll goes by to fast or you are in the heat of battle and just don't see it. No excuse for ignoring a VOIP warning from an admin. Obviously the ban is for people who got kicked multiple times and just can't get the hint. Even the ban generally has a prescribed path to remedy if the user wants to get the ban lifted.

There are obviously exceptions to the rule, like TKing for aircraft/vehicle/armor that are blatant, but even in my day of being an admin, I only kicked for that even though it was on the lower left corner every time the map loaded. I am not sure I have ever heard a valid reason to TK that way and the only real explanation I have ever gotten is he did it to me first.

Do you think any of this is valid?

[=R6= Raile]

quasi's response

The answer to this post, is quite simply, that I am a gamer first, and don't have time to argue every single admin decision I make. If you have ever played Karkand IO then you know that admining is a full time job. So yes, I will kick people without warning, and leave it up to them to figure out what they did wrong. If they want to come argue it in the forums after, then let them. But I won't spend my entire game admining and not playing. (now you do get guys like Monkey who are good enough to write their own automated warnings/bans etc, but there are few people doing that).

And as Monkey said, if people don't like that, then they won't come back.. if they don't pay for the server, then they don't really have any rights.

To add to this.. I am usually the person who argues against making obscure server rules, for this exact reason. They are way too hard to police, and I am unwilling to put the time in. So in kicking people without warning, I would only be doing it when they broke very common server rules.